Consoles

What’s the Point of Console Gaming If it Keeps Emulating PC’s?

Ule Lopez

July 6, 2017

Something I’ve consistently seen in the gaming industry is that a few people are starting to wonder when the next generation of Console Gaming is going to come. That is of course if we get another generation of consoles in the future. Consoles, as we know them, are starting to lose their overall value.

Now, before you get angry at me for mentioning that consoles have lost their touch because of the games we play. That’s hardly the case I’m trying to make. The games themselves have become more and more of a reason to hate the current console lineup because they are more often than not, inadequate compared to modern gaming PCs. I want to just download/play the games I play, no matter how pretty or how much of a resolution they can hold. I primarily use a WiiU Pro Controller hooked up to my PC to play said games, however. I have seen how consoles are struggling to do just that.

Console

Console Gaming isn’t PC Gaming.

The very first problem that arises as soon as you bring up gaming. Nowadays, the issue is that games require themselves to be installed on the consoles before you can even play them. You’re forced to wait minutes or hours before you can play the game instead of having it immediately available to you. Otherwise, you will be faced with more loading times and other kinds of issues because how dare you want to have fun immediately after returning home and putting in your disc.

It’s even more pointless once you think about downloading them digitally. Because for some reason those digital goods need to be downloaded, installed on the hard drive. Then when the game is executed. They have to be installed AGAIN because what you downloaded was the compressed package of the game you initially wanted to play. Depending on the bandwidth the mere process of downloading a game can pretty much be a simple 2-hour wait for both processes. Or two days for people with low connections.

Now, that’s the problem with the installation. Let’s talk about what I dread this article’s comment section is going to be about: graphics. Apparently, 4K gaming is important to some people and I’m supposed to talk about it, so here we go. 4K has been a subject we have been discussing since the PlayStation 4 Pro (then code-named NEO) was close to being announced. However, some of the faults in the consoles we have seen are that they simply can’t handle high-quality graphics when PC’s already got them seamlessly. In fact, the Intel Core i9 series is basically supposed to do that without the need of a graphics card.

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Exclusives? What Exclusives?

One of the biggest issues PC used to have according to console gamers was the lack of exclusives. Nowadays, however, it seems like games are just going to come to every console indiscriminately. Sure, we have multiple games with crossplay across all platforms due to the fact that the production values are high and companies need to recuperate their development fees. But whatever the reason might be, Console gaming has been seeing less and less reason to exist because of it. Sure, we can blame the companies for not going exclusively for the PS4/Xbox One/Switch. But even nowadays the latest rumors are about which games get ported to which system, most of which end up on PC sooner or later.

Say that there are exclusive ports of games that you find on the store of your choosing, that doesn’t mean a thing because there are times when you don’t have enough storage to download a huge game. In other words, you’ll be spending time erasing the data from your hard drive, putting the game on the console. Wait for it to install/download and then starting freaking playing it. Not to mention, changing a disk drive on your PC tends to be just buying the HDD and putting it in your computer. While in regards to Consoles, you have to either buy a system with 1TB of storage or, if you bought an inferior version. You have to buy a separate disk drive and hook that up to the console. And I have seen those, and it really is far from comfortable

I have heard that there is nothing like using a controller instead of your mouse and keyboard but Keyboard and Mouse tend to be hated for no reason, more often than not gamers who use controllers end up getting accustomed to that combination and preferring it due to the versatility and perks it offers. Thanks to features like Steam’s Big Picture we’re allowed to emulate full controller support without needing a driver. And nowadays you can play with a WiiU Pro Controller by just getting a 2.99 Bluetooth Dongle and installing some programs, which means it’s accessible. No matter the user.

I am not saying that PC’s are without their share of faults. Some of the worst ports of games I have ever seen in my life are the ones for PC. Namely Final Fantasy XIII, XIII-2 and Lightning Returns which all have to be tweaked with in regards to graphics performance just to get to play the games, to begin with. There are many other examples I can mention of dismal ports of other IP’s for the PC like the glitched to the wall Silent Hill: Homecoming, but you can see where I’m going with this.

Thumbnail by Top hats and Champagne’s video on PC gaming misconceptions

The Price point debacle

Now, PC gaming used to have this stigma about how inaccessible it is for the gamer who wants to shell out 500 dollars. But the problem is that, while this was true in 2012, it’s certainly not now. The most basic cards you can get already can run games at high resolutions at 60 FPS. All the while, consoles are starting to cost more and more for less performance and various hiccups in regards to graphics.

People have already made memes about the Xbox One X and how it can’t really run the supposed to be amazing game Crackdown 3 at 4K 60 FPS but rather at 4K 30 FPS. Or how the PS4 Pro doesn’t really manage to be that different from its predecessor. And while that’s acceptable complaints, they are incredibly costly. With the Xbox One X reaching a price point of $499.00 and the PS4 Pro is $399.99. Impressive, but Youtube channel ReviewtechUSA already got those two consoles trumped by what he called the GabeNstation, which is a computer capable of 4K gaming which costs the same price as an Xbox One X.

Consoles need to be its own thing

However, a lot of people may have noticed that I haven’t talked about the Nintendo Switch. And that’s where the beginning of the arguments against PC gaming can begin to surface. The Nintendo Switch is a portable/home console designed to be taken out of its down and keep the player on their game. Which really, it’s something that already trumps PC’s by quite a long shot, since gaming laptops usually have the high price points and also have very lacking batteries as well as graphic cards that cannot be updated.

Sure, the Switch presents problems on its own, however. It also shows the probable route Console Gaming should be taking from now on if it wants to stay relevant in the market. Again, the games are good. Some of them are even excellent, but the problem lies on the device that’s used to play them. I know I didn’t really gather all the knowledge I have about console gaming/PC gaming, so if I missed a few aspects, feel free to tell me about them in the comments. I would love to hear and respond to what you have to say.

dat 8k VR tho…

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Brian Trail

Many years ago, I changed into a pure PC gamer. The primary reason was cost. I can build a good gaming rig for less than the main consoles, AND I can continually update it as more funds become available. Also, with the exception of just a few games (*cough* KOTOR II *cough*), I can play those old games that I still have fun playing. I do miss not being able to play some of the consoles’ proprietary games, but there are so few that it doesn’t bother me enough to spring for a console. I do like certain games on console (e.g. Hitman) over PC, but again, not enough to push me to purchase one. At some point in the future, I’ll probably buy one, but it’s not anytime soon. Until then, I’m living on Team PC.
- Dennis Gammaray
  
  you are an idiot and full of shit
  - Brian Trail
    
    Why?
QUIMICOMORTAL

Price, comfort and the best exclusives! Oh, and less cheaters there too!
- TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
  
  While I do agree that there are less cheaters on the console market. The marketplaces have becoome more and more prone to hackings, like the Lizard Squad incident , The Price has become more accesible as well and the exclusives, while good. Haven’t been really showing up as of late.
  - QUIMICOMORTAL
    
    The pc ones? you mean, cause the best 5 or 6 games this year are not payable on pc.
    
    Also, no matter how comfortable chairs they make these days, the most comfortable way of playing is in a couch with the screen not less than 3 feet from your face.
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    No. Less and less exclusives are showing up in Sony and Microsoft platforms, either that or they get re-released later on Steam (Remember Bayonetta?) Pc also has become more prominent in regards to cross platform gaming and. Well, you can just buy yourself a 500 dollar build (Same price as Xbox One X) and then go and place it on your living room and dedicate it purely to gaming.
    
    It’s not really rocket science, but the reason why I wrote this article was because Consoles are trying to emulate PC’s way too much instead of being their own thing to begin with
  - QUIMICOMORTAL
    
    You are only right regarding Microsoft, you are mistaken regarding ps4, it has so far gravity rush 2, yakuza 0, nioh, horizon, persona 5, MLB the show, and crash remake (I only count it cause it’s not a remaster but a remake). A console has never had so many exclusives the 1st half of the year.
    
    Pc is the one not having aaa exclusives this year.
    
    Yes, you have a point, they are becoming more like Pcs but ps4 at least maintains the exclusives, the comfort and ease of use advantages over pc. I even doubt you can get a ps4 like pc with wireless controller for less than 250.
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    Problem is,PS4 now is starting to become more and more isolated as well. Especially regarding how they are prohibniting features like cross play and mods on their games. Granted, this works in favor of the PS4 more than against it in regards of being its own thing. And PC has exclusives as well (The problem is that they suck and the best we have is a remake of an old game lol).
    
    And yes, so far they have gotten to be exclusives. But knowing Atlus they won’t stick to their exclusivity. I never played Yakuza but I am sure that we’re getting Nioh at the very least. The Crash Remake getting ported to other consoles is something that’s heavily discussed as well. And just to give you a hint. My current PC build with i7, 8 gigs of RAM and a 4 GB graphics card costed me 175 dollars.
  - Dennis Gammaray
    
    bullshit
  - QUIMICOMORTAL
    
    Well, sure, that ps4 stances are not exactly popular, but it’s a business decision, as long as they are in the lead, they will force gamers to buy ps4 in order to play with their ps4 gaming friends (instead of letting them play on any system). I don’t like it, but I would do it as well.
    
    You did surprise me with your pc price. But I’m sure that it doesn’t look good standing besides a 4k TV in front of the couch. I love that I only have to throw myself to the couch press two buttons and continue from where I left the day before. I can’t say for sure, but I doubt that you can do the same with a $175 pc.
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    The size of my Comp? It’s the same as an Xbox 360. Granted, I use it in my own room so I’ll give you that much. And yes, I can play games like Resident Evil 7 in there, mostly because of the profcessor / graphics card. I use it to also play and look at the pretty af visuals of Final Fantasy XIII-2
  - Hvd
    
    get as life also
  - QUIMICOMORTAL
    
    Okay, good for you. I just don’t see how that invalidates the points I gave you.
    
    The article questioned the point of consoles, I answered. And I don’t see a pc alternative that gives me more, or even the same, of what I have with ps4 for less money.
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    Yeah, I do agree that the business decisions Sony has been taking are mostly to do its own thing. But I have seen some of the sales for the games you told me and at the very least Yakuza didn’t get that much popularity. It’s still a solid game though.
    
    I can understand that Sony does these as business decisions as well, but nowadays considering how much backlash they have been getting for denying cross play and other sorts of perks other consoles (EVEN THE SWITCH) have been offering. It almost comes off as them wanting to be stubborn about old practices rather than adapting. It’s a complicated point that would make me seem contradicting because I want the consoles to remain its own thing.
    
    The point of this article was always to ask the question of what’s the point of consoles if they want to keep emulating PC’s. I’m pretty sure NOBODY wants to see them doing so instead of continuing the be their own thing
  - QUIMICOMORTAL
    
    Sadly, not all good games get good sales, and THAT is precisely the answer to the question you are making, consoles have started to share a lot of things with pc to share the costs and minimize risks.
    
    Have have became so expensive that companies like Sony or Ms have to let 3rd party (and 1st party in ms case) share the “exclusivity” with pc.
    
    While I am fully aware Sony’s messaging leaves a lot to be desired, I get their stance.
    
    But them and Nintendo still have enough exclusives to maintain their ground, MS on the other hand, I can give it to you, there is no point in having an Xbox now that is library is all available to pc.
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    I’m glad that at the very least you can give me the point on MS. I am happy with that, honestly. Because that pretty much means you actually saw the point and gave it consideration. By the way, we have had some pretty great exclusives for PC. Just this year we got games liuke Filthy Lucre, Flinthook and other indie titles. COnsidering how riddled the main Tripul Ayy industry is filled with Microtransactions and disrespectful DLC transactions (Whcih is a subject for another day), I don’t think that’s bad.
    
    Anyways, I am aware that gaming became expensive, but when you think about it. You start to wonder who the hell asked them to do that to begin with. We could do without 4K gaming and we could do without these Theraflop conversations but companies just decided to up rthe costs to appeal to an audience of graphics whores.
  - QUIMICOMORTAL
    
    Oh, I know PC is constantly getting games, but they are ususally inides. Flinthook looks great, but its definetly not exclusive to pc, filthy lucre is also on ps4. My point was that there have not been that many AAA exclusives these days.
    
    Well, that is unavoidable! its impossible to create a new gen that doesnt come with better graphics. Eventually it will become unsustainable for many devs to produce AAA games, but indies have shown us that there will be great games regardless.
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    I seriously hope these devs understand that there are limits to everyone’s wallets. Like, many people think I am a rich guy and such but I actually am one of those who barely has enough money to sustain himself but still keeps on gaming.
    
    AAA Exclusivity though, I can agree with you. There aren’t many on PC, but again. Look at games like Bayonetta or FFXIII, they used to be exclusives and ended up eventually on PC as well, better than ever. So you can’t say that they will stay exclusives. But hey, that’s the games. Not the devices that play them. It was really fun to have this discussion with you regardless, pal-
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    I changed the title though. Mostly to drive the point further
  - QUIMICOMORTAL
    
    Ok, I still don’t think my answer would change though. (except maybe for MS).
  - Dennis Gammaray
    
    bullshit, you have a mind of a monkey
  - Hvd
    
    the only cheaters on console are using zim for mouse and keyboard in fpos multiplayer.on pc its a cheaters playground.
- SinkingSage
  
  Price?
  Launch PS4 ~400
  PSN subscription from 2013-2017 ~240
  One Launch game per year ~240
  Total ~880
  
  Console gaming is anything but cheap.
  - QUIMICOMORTAL
    
    Ok, I forgot you don’t get full price aaa exclusives anymore but you make a good point worth the price of online multilayer (for those that want it).
    
    So I’ll change my answer to : entry price, ease of use, comfort and the best exclusives! Oh, and less cheaters there too!
    
    There!
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    I mean, the free online is already argument enough against the fact that you have to pay for your internet service as well. And the games are also getting costs of 60 dollars coupled with DLC
  - QUIMICOMORTAL
    
    Sure, the free online is a good and valid argument! I haven’t paid a single dime for it cause I prefer single player games but many people do have to pay for it.
    
    But that’s like a $5 payment per month instead of having to pay an extra handful of hundred dollars at the very beginning.
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    But again *The Switch does it better*.
    
    I mean, it will suck for many that nintendo will strip off people from their free Online service, but the cost is literally 20 dollars a year. Since when has that become any way of intrusive? I mean, if its an inevitability that they need paid online because servers need maintenance and such. Why not do it the way Nintendo does it? It SHOWS that it can be doable. Same as DLC, with MK8 for example, you get ANOTHER game and it only costs 1/4 of the price of the base game. Same as with the Smash 4 characters and Stages together.
  - QUIMICOMORTAL
    
    Yes, it is cheaper, but far inferior, it doesn’t even has voice chat.
    
    And examples vary from game to game, horizon just gave FOR FREE what Nintendo charged in a two DLC pack with Zelda!
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    Well, I just found out that Forza 7 in 4K is gonna be 100GB.
    
    We’re all going to die now
Lord Jamar

stupid article same bs form these type of ppl year in and year out pc gamers are the most insecure ppl i have ever seen always tryin to justify there over priced rigs to console gamers to feel better about themselves just stop go play your pc and shut up
- TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
  
  I mean, you literally can get real 4K gaming by the same price as the Xbox One X.
  
  I wonder why exactly you think the Rigs are overpriced though
  - Dennis Gammaray
    
    yeah a gaming rig that can only play pacman in 4k for that price
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    Well, I have an intel core i7 with 8 gigs of RAM and a GTX 1050ti. Costed me half the price of an Xbox One so again, fail to see the point here. It can also play any game I want in Ultra
  - Hvd
    
    low end gpu that you can buy at best buy..lmao.you pc couldnt play forza 7 4k/60fps like the xbox one x does..lol
  - SinkingSage
    
    The xXxBonexXx doesn’t play Forza 7 at 4k/60fps, it’s not even out yet.
  - Lord Jamar
    
    thanks for proving my point smh
- SinkingSage
  
  Over priced?
  
  Launch PS4 ~400
  PSN subscription from 2013-2017 ~240
  One Launch game per year ~240
  Total ~880
  
  Consoles are overpriced.
  - Hvd
    
    the ps4 crap pro also fake upscaled 4k,no ea access,no real bc,no cross play allowed and psn is crap #forthe gamers…lmao
  - Lord Jamar
    
    really really reaching
  - SinkingSage
    
    Not really, this is what the majority of console users do, and they buy much, much more than this diminutive quantity.
  - Lord Jamar
    
    please stop reaching people like you are so annoying with your blind bias
  - SinkingSage
    
    HAH, oh yeah?
    Add to that the price of a television…
    It’s not reaching, it’s what the average console user does.
  - Lord Jamar
    
    its reaching just stop im done with you
  - SinkingSage
    
    You have no argument.
    Do you not have a television for your PS4? Do you not have games? Do you play online?
  - Lord Jamar
    
    im done with you be gone
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    SS has a point you know.
    
    And besides, you also are one of those who say that there are a lot of hackers on PC. Knowing full well that you got DDoS-d for an entire SEASON by a bunch of hackers who destroyed the PSN and the Xbox Marketplace.
    
    It’s sad really. Because as much as you like to say that they aren’t. PC’s are superior to Consoles in almost all aspects. THERE ARE PITFALLS to them, but not the ones you are thinking of
  - Lord Jamar
    
    another dumb hurt pc player who didn’t even read what i said calm your superiority complex
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    The poiint I see you making is that me backing up my arguments is “Showing insecurity” and the fact that the PC’s are better than consoles about now and you can’t face it is just making you think I’m “Reaching out to you”.
    
    Look, you have kids building computers like they are just puzzle pieces, and if you can’t get to be bothered to do that? Well, then I guess will just feel sad for you and your laziness
  - Lord Jamar
    
    nope i just see a guy runing aorund saying his penis is big is likely not big is what i get form you pc player daily you follow console sot brag more then console players follow console it seems really insecure and desperate to prove something to make you feel better about your purchase but in reality no one cares as you pc players do it daily and its sad like i said drop the superiority complex and maybe console players will listen to what you have to say
Lee

Exclusives don’t matter if you they don’t interest you.
I downloaded three games and have them installed ready to go while I’m on holiday in another country.
Build me a PC for console price I can put in my rucksack and carry freely around and I’m sold…
Nope.
That’s why I have a console.
Idiot.
- TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
  
  i mean, that’s why Short Factor builds are for. You literally can make a small computer with case and everything so you can carry it around. My computer is the same size as an Xbox 360
  - Hvd
    
    news flash people dont want to build a pc.thats why we have consoles…you are a bright one..lmao
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    When you have KIDS building those PC’s because its a simple thing to do as just putting a puzzle together. I don’t know whether or not I should feel sad for you.
  - Lee
    
    Ok cool, quick google, $226 brand new Xbox 500gb. Build me this ‘small computer’. Obviously that includes all connections and controller, free delivery and labour, don’t forget to box and seal it. I give you $226 and you send me your small computer. Keep any savings you make as a gift on me 😉
    If that is possible, I will delete comments, if not, delete you article.
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    Here you go m8. 175 dollars.
    But I won’t sell it to you because I would waste those 226 dollars in a console with no games. When I would much rather be playing Resi 7 or Bayonetta in this one. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3bc95a3d5d815536fad46189afc5a60cf750f40b16aa5a416dc79baaa6f1b04c.jpg
- SinkingSage
  
  You can build a mini ITX computer, many of which are even smaller than consoles.
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    And well, you can also stream games to the Switch using an app. So that’s a thing
  - Dennis Gammaray
    
    whoopie do you can stream pacman a 30 year old game
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    No, you can stream games as far as Overwatch go. You keep denying that because reasons
  - Dennis Gammaray
    
    bullshit
  - SinkingSage
    
    It’s not bullshit, it is a thing, an actual thing.
    Not my problem that you are ignorant.
Demetre M

Written by a uneducated fat jackass with a underpowered PC article is as stupid and dumb as he is here fatso -1
- TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
  
  Why am I uneducated?
LarZen

Oh man. This was painful to read. Even for me as a PC gamer. This has to be a attempt to trigger console users. But if that is not the purpose then I employ the writer to stop writing articles about things he then clearly has no insight to write about.
- TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
  
  I am both PC and Console gamer. So I don’t understand where my lack of insight *is*
  - LarZen
    
    That just makes it even more troublesome to read to be honest.
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    Again. Why?
  - LarZen
    
    I’ve answered. There is a link in it so you need to approve it.
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    Bruh. I can’t find the link anywhere. Either it got deleted or somthing of the sort,
    
    Tell you what though, try cutting it in half like
    
    www (dot) snsnnsns (dot) com / info
    
    Can’t think of any other solution
  - LarZen
    
    I’ll just remove the URL in the comment so it dont get admin flagged.
    
    This is a long one and full of quotes so be warned….
    
    Here we go…
    
    The games themselves have become more and more of a reason to hate the current console lineup because they are more often than not, inadequate compared to modern gaming PCs.
    
    Inadequate to who? You? The PS4 and XBO have sold somewhere around ~90 million consoles since 2013. And Sony is looking at what could be a new record the likes of not seen since PlayStation 2.
    
    I want to just download/play the games I play, no matter how pretty or how much of a resolution they can hold.
    
    And you can..
    
    I primarily use a WiiU Pro Controller hooked up to my PC to play said games, however. I have seen how consoles are struggling to do just that.
    
    There are several third party controllers you can use on both XBO and PS4 today. Sure its not as open as on PC. But a struggle? Hardly.
    
    That is of course if we get another generation of consoles in the future. Consoles, as we know them, are starting to lose their overall value.
    
    Lose value to who? You? Consumers and gamers love them. And is why they are selling so incredible good as I’ve already mentioned. Publishers and developers love them as some of the biggest AAA games are selling better and has a longer more active lifespan on consoles.
    
    CONSOLE GAMING ISN’T PC GAMING.
    
    No and yes. Consoles are changing and adapting to what consumers want and need today. Are you afraid the little boys club that is PC is falling apart? Here’s a news flash. It happened years ago. PC gaming is now for everyone.
    
    Nowadays, the issue is that games require themselves to be installed on the consoles before you can even play them. You’re forced to wait minutes or hours before you can play the game instead of having it immediately available to you. Otherwise, you will be faced with more loading times and other kinds of issues because how dare you want to have fun immediately after returning home and putting in your disc.
    
    What issue? This is how it’s been now for about 11 years. Did you get a nostalgia drip and went back a few decades?
    
    It’s even more pointless once you think about downloading them digitally. Because for some reason those digital goods need to be downloaded, installed on the hard drive. Then when the game is executed. They have to be installed AGAIN because what you downloaded was the compressed package of the game you initially wanted to play.
    
    Your a PC gamer. Why is this a issue if you are on a console in 2017? And what compression? Sure a few games install some data even when it’s downloaded/installed. But most dont.
    
    Depending on the bandwidth the mere process of downloading a game can pretty much be a simple 2-hour wait for both processes. Or two days for people with low connections.
    
    And for a gamer in 2017 this is relevant to who?
    
    However, some of the faults in the consoles we have seen are that they simply can’t handle high-quality graphics when PC’s already got them seamlessly.
    
    High-quality graphics compared to what? A PC? At what price point? And seamlessly? What a joke. We have so many bad ports on PC it’s a joke. Where even a GTX1080/Ti have problems maintaining a steady 60 fps at 1440p/2160p.
    
    In fact, the Intel Core i9 series is basically supposed to do that without the need of a graphics card.
    
    Yes let’s drag in a CPU that alone costs over $1000 to the discussion. That’s just silly.
    
    One of the biggest issues PC used to have according to console gamers was the lack of exclusives. Nowadays, however, it seems like games are just going to come to every console indiscriminately.
    
    PC has many great exclusives and unique games. But AAA PC exclusive games are as rare as Half Life 3 footage. Come on…
    
    And sure Xbox has gone a different rute then Nintendo and Sony. But some of the best games you can play are just that. Exclusives. And their not on a PC.
    
    you don’t have enough storage to download a huge game. In other words, you’ll be spending time erasing the data from your hard drive, putting the game on the console. Wait for it to install/download and then starting freaking playing it.
    
    So again. Same issues as on a PC. And again. Did you have a nostalgia drip back a few decades?
    
    You have to buy a separate disk drive and hook that up to the console. And I have seen those, and it really is far from comfortable
    
    It’s so easy to do on a PS4 it’s ridicules. As a PC gamer it’s should be a walk in the park. Dont want to to replace the internal one? Hook up a external drive…
    
    People have already made memes about the Xbox One X and how it can’t really run the supposed to be amazing game Crackdown 3 at 4K 60 FPS but rather at 4K 30 FPS. Or how the PS4 Pro doesn’t really manage to be that different from its predecessor. And while that’s acceptable complaints, they are incredibly costly. With the Xbox One X reaching a price point of $499.00 and the PS4 Pro is $399.99.
    
    So a $499 and $399 console cant do what a GTX1080Ti can? How mindblowing is that?
    
    Play Horizon Zero Dawn on a PS4 and then on a PS4Pro in 2160p checkerboard with HDR and say it’s not that different from it predecessor. Sure Horizon is a perfect example of how good the PS4Pro can be. It’s just like on PC. All up to the developers to take advantage of the hardware.
    
    And super expensive? You got to be kidding me? If anyone think that is expensive for what you are getting. Especially the Xbox One X. They should stay far far away from PC if they want the same level of performance.
    
    Youtube channel ReviewtechUSA already got those two consoles trumped by what he called the GabeNstation, which is a computer capable of 4K gaming which costs the same price as an Xbox One X.
    
    The PS4Pro maybe. But not the Xbox One X. Even PC World are saying you’ll have a hard time doing that for $500
    Sure, the Switch presents problems on its own, however. It also shows the probable route Console Gaming should be taking from now on if it wants to stay relevant in the market.
    
    Relevant for who again? You? The consoles and software are selling extremely well on consoles.
    
    Ubisoft sold 77% of their software in Q4 2016/17 on XBO and PS4. Sure Ubisoft has a love hate relation to many gamers. But their games are still some of the most selling games. And perfect as a statistic example.
    
    PHEW!
    
    I warned you it would a long one. And I might have lost my way somewhere there. But you get the point. If not the point is consoles are more relevant then ever. Did I get triggered by your article. Yeah the post is pretty self explanatory there..
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    Don’t worry fam. I mentioned that I wanted discussion and I got it. Don’t worry about me being triggered, since I never claimed my words to be absolute and I really wanted to expand on this further,. So I’ll respond to you in a bit.
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    Fuuuck me, I think my response got deleted.
    
    Short answer. I agree with almost everything you’ve mentioned. Except with the point about price points and other issues. My Rig costed me 175 dollars and it has an i7 Processor and a GTX 1050Ti. Which can run current gen games just fine, at 1080p. I don’t really care about the resolution, I just want the game to play to be honest.
    
    I want games to be more broadly available, that’s why I first mentioned that games are not the problem but rather the devices that run them. The reason why I brought up the comparisson is because Consoles are starting to emulate PC’s and NOBODY wants them to do that. Because the problems are starting with the Installation process to bring a n example
Mike Jones

you dont like the console exclusives so you dont care about them….you dont mind having a massive increase in hackers ruining your online experiences so you dont care about those who do….you like playing with m&k so you dont care about people who dont like it or dont want to put themselves at a massive inherent disadvantage when it comes to playing multiplayer games…and you are clearly pc literate so all the minor issues that pop up over time that require the user to fix them either during use or during future upgrades are no issue for you so you dont care about people who arent so literate and just want to push a single button and play games….that about cover it?
- TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
  
  1) I’m not saying that I don’t like console exclusives, I’m saying that there are less and less and even then there are more.
  2) Says the person whose networks got massively hacked 4 times last year and got DDoS’d before.
  3) Did you read what I said? If you have, you would’ve known I use a WIiU Pro Controller for everything that isn’t shooters.
  4) Nowadays being a literate at computers is easy, with a few minor exceptions. I mentioned the Final Fantasy XIII issue, it was easily fixed by Googling a guide
  - Mike Jones
    
    1) clearly youre not a fan of most console exclusive games otherwise this wouldnt be a point you even bring up as there are more than enough exclusives to justify consoles existing if that was the only criteria we were going on
    2)networks go down and hackers exist everywhere i was clearly talking about day to day chances of running into hackers while playing online
    3) the fact you dont use it for shooters proves you understand how worthless it is compared to m&k meaning you understand how ridiculous it is to suggest people go play play multiplayer pc games with a controller like its no big deal
    4) what you think is easy isnt what others think is easy,but your complete inability to view things from other peoples perspective is kind of the entire point here so makes sense i guess
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    1) I am a fan of some console exclusives. Otherwise I wouldn’t be a fan of the N. Sane trilogy or Dissidia NT, however. The talk nowadays is ports for other consoles, in fact. A lot of the discussion about N.Sane Trilogy is whether or not it will have a PC/Xbox port.
    2) So, what’s the point you’re trying to make? I played online for a long time and so far, I haven’t met any hacker that doesn’t attempt to do anything short of a DDoS attack. And by the way, these aren’t hackers. It’s script kid’ing.
    
    3) I also use M+K on other games like platformers for instace. shooters is the best application for M+K but there are also RTS and other kinds of games that are better suited for keyboard. However, say Smash bros or other single button fighting games you have to use COntroller beecause its simply better. Regardless, it’s not even the point I tried to make, because you can stil plug in a WiiU Pro Controller easily and do a simple process that requires installing a few programs
    4) Yeah, because following Steps 1-3 of how to fix an issue or simply go to a destination folder is REALLY hard and time consuming. You need to be a governmnt FBI Agent to figure these things!
  - Mike Jones
    
    1) never said you didnt care about any but again this point would be ridiculous if you cared for most
    2) i explained exactly what my point was and youre literally insane if you dont think ending up in a game with a hacker is infinitely more common on pc than on console
    3) you keep talking about wii u controllers as if everyone owns a few and loves to play on them,and are again ignoring the fact only an absolute moron would try and play any of the genres you laid out on pc with a controller
    4) not really hard and time consuming for you,or some majority of people ill grant you, but its not the case for all,and its still not 1 button press for years on end of instant gaming…..again i think youre just laying out your case from your perspective and its great but this entire thing comes off mostly as if a gamer doesnt share your interests and priorities then they are wrong or lesser than you and its ridiculous the same as it has been for fanboys of all platforms for decades now who cant seem to understand facts vs opinions
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    1 If I cared for most exclusives, again. They are becoming either Timed exclusives or they later get ported to PC. Nowadays since the platform became extra accesible for companies to program their games for.
    
    2 The Overwatch hacker who kep´t DDoS’ing people was from the PS4 version, that was last year alone. And no, games don’t get that many cheaters anymore. And when they do, they often get banned almost immediately.
    3 Yes, because nowadays thanks to XInput (Which is a software for Xbox 360 controllers not to be mistaken with the program that emulates inputs as keyboard presses) you can easily play with any sort of controller whatsoever without the need of having to do much. Example being the WiiU Pro Controller and the PS4 controllers, which both are Bluetooth, all you need is a dongle. With 360 Controllers you can just plug in the USB. And while games are easier to play with M+K. You can also play with your controller if you want to. In fact, a lot of the games in Steam are oprogrammed with control inputs over Keyboards.
    4 I never had the intention to do that. Like I said before, all we do is game and we want to do as such. And again, the problem isn’t the games. It’s the platforms thatplay them. Once again, I laid out the problemsthey are bringing because the consoles currently try to emulate PC’s way too much.
  - hvd hvd
    
    You cant talk to the guys no common sense gets through.
MiamiBeachMedMan

Fake news! Sad!
- TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
  
  It can’t be Fake news if it isn’t .. You know.. News
Dennis Gammaray

this article is full of shit and the author is a five year old dumbass, PC gaming is dead consoles are far from over, they out sell PC games and gaming rigs daily, 90% of pc gamers are fat lazy turds with no money playing 20 year old games cos their pc cant handle the games of today
- TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
  
  And that’s where you’re wrong. A lot of PC gamers tend to make a lot of profit for the games they buy.Resident Evil 7’s best version is the PC one and the consoles are trying to emulate them instead of being their own thing. What makes me boil the most is that instead of agreeing with the former point because that’s what it is. You try and shut this down
Sean Holt

consoles are still the better choice for gaming. the console just works there is no upgrading the system because the specs are different for a game.
- TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
  
  Look at the recommended settings for most of the games. All of them always ask you for minimal settings (Ie. Final Fantasy XIII requires 2 Gigs of RAM and a video card capabale of 512MB of VRAM) so the games can run proper, if you want to go a step beyond, then you’ll have to buy at the very least a powerful graphics card or the i9 processor, which is already a powerful device on its own
  - Hvd
    
    pc gaming is garbage as their their toxic communities are..lmao
TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo

That’s not true even for a second. Even when the upgrade process exists. It’s only in the very off chance you want to improve the graphics or processing power so you can make your PC more of an ultility product. Example: The build I have can play all of the games in Steam seamlessly because it’s an Intel Core i7 with 8Gigs of RAM and a GTX 1050ti with 4Gigs of VRAM. And it only costed me 175 dollars, half the price of a PS4.

Now, I could keep upgrading the PC if I wanted to, but that’s if future games require higher resolutions/better graphics cards, in whch case it’s a single purchase of a better graphics card that again costs only 170 dollars or less
- Hvd
  
  you gtx 1050 iti s a low end gpu that can be bought at best buy…lmao.8gb ov ram is getting old more and more pc gamers are requireing 16gb now this is a pc for crappy esports..
  
  this pc couldnt run a 2017 AAA max settings at 60fps…lmao
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    Yes it can. Buddy, I use that to play Resident Evil 7. But I don’t really give a damn about graphics anyway
  - hvd hvd
    
    Lol
    ..right
TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo

Don’t bring up EA’s Battlefront unless you want to weaken your case.

Interest reports are highr. I will admit that, but the question I asked was mostly why the hell were consoles trying to emulate PC’s the most? If I drew the comparison between PC’s and Consoles it was to do just that
- Hvd
  
  battlefront sold millions on console where they should have focused on in the first place.their mistake was pc..lol
  
  the pc was doa while i can still get in games on console…lmao.
TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo

Is that so? Tell me then why Mafia 3 takes around 40 minutes to install at minimum? The technical issues most people presented at launch? The fact that a lot of games (Even Resident Evil 7 if you want a current example) have been requiring you to download an installation file before you can actually get to play them?

Even IF you justify these issues. I’ve always said that console gaming offers ease of use. But the problem is that this ease is becoming more and more blurry for the people who make these. What I ofgfered in my opinion was the suggestion of me wanting these manufacturers to stop focusing on the graphics and instead make their own thing like the switch. Because they are trying way too hard to be PC’s when like you said. it’s not that popular.

But just to counter you, no. A 1050ti only costs about 150 dollars, and if you get to be someone like me. An entire rig with 8 Gigs of RAM and an intel corei7 processor costs you 175 dollars if you look at the right places. And yes, I agree with you on the fact that some people will say it can’t play games or something but it can and is capable of playing Resi 7
- Hvd
  
  but it runs..lmao
TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo

1) Pirating happens in all of the consoles, no matter where. Look up any sort of digital chip for the PS4/Xbox One and homebrew for Switch and you’ll find it. So let’s not go there.
2) G2A’s story is that they steal Cdkeys form other users and resell them right? SOme people have tried to justify that with the “It’s free market” excuse. But even then. It would be bad. However, several investigations launched already and now G2A is in hot water.
3) In Steam sales, there have been titles by the triple A industry that didn’t get a single dent in discounts. Mostly 2017 titles, which is the area of focus at the moment.

The question I asked, is why the consoles are trying to be PC’s more and more (Look at the xbox One X conference to see what I mean) when in fact, nobody wants them to
TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo

I’ll give you this. They have nothing with the exception of the PS4, one of the users here actually made a fairly good argument about how the best exclusives on the year belonged to the PS4
Lord Jamar

no a pc player being secure about there purchase stop acting like you dont know what that it as it happens daily. stop trying to force egos and down others to see your way, go play your pc console players will go play there console if you know your is so much better dont be so insecure about it there are millions upon millions on both sides if you dont know why people enjoy consoles by now you never will i dont need a dick measuring contest i dont need to be insecure i know what i like and what i enjoy and dont have to prove something like pc players
TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo

I mean, I don’t mind it because first of all I’m Mexican and second of all. My provider (telecom) didn’t give me a broadband limit. BUT HOLY SHIT 100 GIGS IS GOINBG TO TAKE FOREVER TO DOWNLOAD.

Like, oh my god. I know that it’s just for a 4K version but ugh
- QUIMICOMORTAL
  
  Yup, welcome to the true 4k era!
  
  We should have 100mbs on broadband by now, but no, we have 100 gb downloads
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    And for fuck’s sake, this is bad. Whether or not you’re a console gamer or PC gamer. Cause none of us are going to be able to enjoy the fucking games we play to begin with!
  - QUIMICOMORTAL
    
    I’m sure they will enable the download pre launch, for all those things.
  - TSR – Ule #TeamZeRo
    
    I sure do hope so, man. And hey you are one of the smartest comments in the entire thread. Really glad you spent your time in on this
  - QUIMICOMORTAL
    
    Same here!
    
    Enjoy your gaming!

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July 6, 2017

Ule Lopez @ulemanpwnsuall

A journalist with the ideals of a balanced future. Ule is a person that cares about the industry almost as much as he cares about his friends. If there is something to be talked about, he will oftenly discuss and point out its flaws, he is also one of those that likes to promote creativity in a medium like the internet.

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